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  • Name: Not known yet; one suggestion said Shadow. Attack: Unstoppable

    Defense: Basic

    Abilties:

    Attack somebody once per night for an unstoppable attack. However, the second time somebody visits you while attacking somebody, you will deal a powerful attack to yourself.

    If you choose to stay home, you will not be killed on visit.

    Attributes: -n/a


    Invest Results:

    Sheriff: NS

    Invest: Vigi, Vet, Mafioso, [Pirate], [Ambusher], [this role] These investigation results were chosen for a reason—the veteran. This role can function like an effective veteran, and there is no current Neutral role for classic mode in this invest result.

    Reveal: [unsure yet] (i.e. Consigliere)



    Goal: Kill all who would oppose you. (standard NK winning conditions)

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    • TheRetroPioneer wrote:
      Attack: Unstoppable

      Defense: Basic

      Abilties:

      Attack somebody once per night for an unstoppable attack. However, if somebody visits you while attacking somebody, you will deal a basic attack to yourself. not bad, so guess who won't be visited, not someone too talkative or someone too quiet.

      If you choose to stay home, you will not be killed on visit. ok

      Attributes:

      You have temporary basic attack that disappears after one attack. you mean basic defense?


      Invest Results:

      Sheriff: NS

      Invest: Framer, Vamp, Jest, [Hex Master], [This role] ok

      Reveal: [unsure yet] reveal...?



      Goal: Kill all who would oppose you. (standard NK winning conditions) ​​​​​​​k

      this role doesn't have any good claims if investigated other than saying "I was framed!", otherwise I think it's nice 

      this is my first review tho did I do it right?

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    • This seems a bit meh.

      First of all, obvious naming issue xD

      2nd of all, This role may become impossible to win as if people keep visitng. 

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    • Jenkn;

      Feedback noted. The role will be updated. Newer investigation results.

      Betimawesome,

      Feedback noted. Naming issue will be resolved later. Also, that's why there's a temporary defense. So if you screw up with visiting the first time, there's always a round two. Also, you can stay home and attempt to remain hidden. The role will be updated if you reply with any suggestions for balancing to the "insta kill visiting " feature.

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    • This still is kinda hard to win as, maybe you only attack yourself when a role who can do damage visits your target like mafioso/gf, serial killer, ww, any member of the coven who's out to kill, vigi, vh (if your target is a vampire), bg (I mean the bg would attack you along with you attacking yourself which means you die...), vamp (if your target gets attacked when bit)

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    • TheRetroPioneer wrote:
      Attack: Unstoppable This is OP if not for the nerf later on.

      Defense: Basic Standard, like all Neutral Killings

      Abilties:

      Attack somebody once per night for an unstoppable attack. However, if somebody visits you while attacking somebody, you will deal a basic attack to yourself. I don't know why someone would do that in real life, but ok.

      If you choose to stay home, you will not be killed on visit. So basically if someone visited me while I was at home I wouldn't attack myself. OK.

      Attributes:

      You have temporary basic defense that disappears after one attack. Now, earlier, you said that you will deal a Basic attack to yourself if you are visited while attacking somebody. If someone visits you TWICE IN A ROW while trying to kill someone, this unnamed Killing role is essentially dead. 



      Invest Results:

      Sheriff: NS Hm... Maybe "Your target is a/an [unnamed killing role]!"

      Invest: Vigi, Vet, Mafioso, [Pirate], [Ambusher], [this role] These investigation results were chosen for a reason—the veteran. This role can function like an effective veteran, and there is no current Neutral role for classic mode in this invest result. No. Six roles in a single Investigator result is too much.

      Reveal: [unsure yet] I assume this is a Reveal Potion usage, which can also apply to the Consigliere and Coven Leader results.



      Goal: Kill all who would oppose you. (standard NK winning conditions) Yeah, same old win conditions.


      I'd say, in the end, it's a UP role. Any visits will cause you to attack yourself, which can lead to your untimely doom. Its attack value is too high (enough to kill other NKs, which should not be possible) (also enough to kill anyone who is healed by a Doctor or saved by a Guardian Angel.) and its one-time defense is not really great. 


      I give it a C- for effort.

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    • Looking over certain feedback: ItsDan18: "I don't know why someone would do that in real life, but ok." Mostly a game mechanic and not for lore, lol.

      "Now, earlier, you said that you will deal a Basic attack to yourself if you are visited while attacking somebody. If someone visits you TWICE IN A ROW while trying to kill someone, this unnamed Killing role is essentially dead." Most people don't visit twice in a row; the same argument can be made for any NK role and deathnotes; so I'm not sure how valid this is.

      "its one-time defense is not really great." I'd request suggestions from both you and other people​​​​​​ for help here.

      "Its attack value is too high (enough to kill other NKs, which should not be possible)​" This does not make sense to me, since most neutral roles are able to kill other NK roles.

      You did make a point with the Sheriff, but I'm not sure how necesssary it is. Maybe not.

      Jenkn:

      That is a somewhat interesting idea, but I think I'd make a new post for that if I do carry on with that idea.

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    • TheRetroPioneer wrote:
      Attack: Unstoppable oh boy (but balanced, I see)

      Defense: Basic must have, or it's not Neutral Killing

      Abilties:

      Attack somebody once per night for an unstoppable attack. However, if somebody visits you while attacking somebody, you will deal a basic attack to yourself. even if it's investigative? or protective? like, i think it should just be an auto-vest like witch

      If you choose to stay home, you will not be killed on visit. i see, this is interesting

      Attributes:

      You have temporary basic defense that disappears after one attack. You have a fierce reputation that disappears after an attack? idk



      Invest Results:

      Sheriff: NS nah Arso is special because it has detection immunity, add Your target is [Name]!

      Invest: Vigi, Vet, Mafioso, [Pirate], [Ambusher], [this role] These investigation results were chosen for a reason—the veteran. This role can function like an effective veteran, and there is no current Neutral role for classic mode in this invest result. ​​​​​​​that's ok, but does he have a gun?

      Reveal: [unsure yet] 



      Goal: Kill all who would oppose you. (standard NK winning conditions)

      I think that this role needs to be more... complete. I do think, however, after it is, it seems mostly balanced.

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    • In response to Gob47:

      "that's ok, but does he have a gun?" No, because the Ambusher's art has a knife and no gun; also, it's really made for balancing reasons and not lore.

      "i think it should just be an auto-vest like witch" to clarify, this is already put in

      "I think that this role needs to be more... complete." I need some help there. Any other suggestions?

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    • Name: Shadow

      See Attribues/Sheriff (That's dumb, you probably did but yeah)

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    • Make it permanent basic defense, that should be the default for all neutral killing.

      Make it so that the second time someone visit you will attacking, you deal a powerful attack to yourself.

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    • TheMayor123 wrote:
      Make it permanent basic defense, that should be the default for all neutral killing.

      Make it so that the second time someone visit you will attacking, you deal a powerful attack to yourself.

      Changed this to match your feedback.

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    • thanks for taking my suggestions :)

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    • TheRetroPioneer wrote:
      Name: Not known yet; one suggestion said Shadow.

      Attack: Unstoppable might wanna nerf this

      Defense: Basic

      Abilties:

      Attack somebody once per night for an unstoppable attack. However, the second time somebody visits you while attacking somebody, you will deal a powerful attack to yourself. but why do you hit yourself.. just change the abiity to something that makes sense

      If you choose to stay home, you will not be killed on visit.

      Attributes:

      You have temporary basic defense that disappears after one attack. why do you have basic defense in the first place?



      Invest Results:

      Sheriff: NS ​​​​​​​he kills people..

      Invest: Vigi, Vet, Mafioso, [Pirate], [Ambusher], [this role] These investigation results were chosen for a reason—the veteran. This role can function like an effective veteran, and there is no current Neutral role for classic mode in this invest result.


      Reveal: [unsure yet] wdym reveal?


      Goal: Kill all who would oppose you. (standard NK winning conditions)

      not bad for a role but makes no sense

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    • WellHidan wrote:
      TheRetroPioneer wrote:
      Name: Not known yet; one suggestion said Shadow.

      Attack: Unstoppable might wanna nerf this I'm thinking about it; if there's something majorly wrong with this I'll change it to Powerful; you are right here

      Defense: Basic

      Abilties:

      Attack somebody once per night for an unstoppable attack. However, the second time somebody visits you while attacking somebody, you will deal a powerful attack to yourself. but why do you hit yourself.. just change the abiity to something that makes sense I was going for balanced game mechanics; transporter making mafioso kill themself doens't make sense. (Unless you mean this is unbalanced)

      If you choose to stay home, you will not be killed on visit.

      Attributes:

      You have temporary basic defense that disappears after one attack. why do you have basic defense in the first place? To survive one attack/one attacking mechanic; this has been changed to permanent defense now BTW thanks for noticing



      Invest Results:

      Sheriff: NS ​​​​​​​he kills people.. So does Godfather, Arsonist and Vigilante; they're counted as NS, so there's no theme to that.

      Invest: Vigi, Vet, Mafioso, [Pirate], [Ambusher], [this role] These investigation results were chosen for a reason—the veteran. This role can function like an effective veteran, and there is no current Neutral role for classic mode in this invest result.


      Reveal: [unsure yet] wdym reveal? I mean Consigliere


      Goal: Kill all who would oppose you. (standard NK winning conditions)

      not bad for a role but makes no sense

      Helpful feedback. Updated a couple of things.

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    • The way this role works sounds like the way it kills might be bomb-related...

      So maybe the name should be "Bomber"? Kind of a lame name, though

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    • Heron the Mudkip wrote:
      The way this role works sounds like the way it kills might be bomb-related...

      So maybe the name should be "Bomber"? Kind of a lame name, though

      Not only that; it doesn't really follow the theme of Town of Salem. Maybe something related to that, maybe.

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